Chook, I think the prayer is suppose to go along the lines of, 'forgive them Lord they know not what they do.'
Anna Marina
JoinedPosts by Anna Marina
-
30
We pray for the governing body
by StephaneLaliberte insince when has it become cool to pray for the gb?
i noticed that at the begining of my fade back in 2015, it had already been there for a good while and was already getting on my nerves.
i means, i grew up in it, but can't remember much further than the 90s and i don't remember this being always in the payers.
-
-
Anna Marina
-
30
We pray for the governing body
by StephaneLaliberte insince when has it become cool to pray for the gb?
i noticed that at the begining of my fade back in 2015, it had already been there for a good while and was already getting on my nerves.
i means, i grew up in it, but can't remember much further than the 90s and i don't remember this being always in the payers.
-
-
Anna Marina
It is perfectly reasonable to pray for the individual members of the GB. If you do talks, why not include this encouraging point in your material. You may get a surprising reaction.
(Matthew 5:44-45) However, I say to YOU: Continue to love YOUR enemies and to pray for those persecuting YOU; that YOU may prove yourselves sons of YOUR Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise upon wicked people and good and makes it rain upon righteous people and unrighteous
-
4
Shunning Your Children Is No Big Deal....Really?
by The Bethelite inthe worst form of punishment for any major crime on the planet is death.. however, the second option of imprisonment is way more powerful and popular all over the world.
the most powerful form of imprisonment is called solitary confinement.
by shunning people this is what you inflict on your loved ones who no longer want to be the same religion as you, .
-
-
Anna Marina
Jesus ate with sinners. In doing so he was not condoning their harmful ways but seeking to educate them. It was the Pharisees who criticised him and he even tried to help them too.
Although Jesus was attacked, he wasn't lonely. Loving, kind and merciful people who wanted to know about the God of Abraham were drawn to him. Jesus explained that if he was treated badly by apostates it'd be the same for anyone else acting in a genuine Christian manner. Speaking from experience, the shunning policy of the apostates (WTBS) fails. Big time. They are the losers if they want to get rid of those who care about them.
If you are stuck down a collapsed mine-shaft, you don't fire guns at the rescue workers who have come to get you out.
-
39
Why Did You Stay In The JW Religion As Long As You Did?
by minimus inwere you so indoctrinated that you just couldn’t leave?
was it due to family pressure?
was it your friendships that you didn’t want to lose?
-
-
Anna Marina
Hi Phizzy - when I realised there was a serious doctrinal issue I had to deal with, I felt that anyone born-in had little, if any chance to see through the abhorrent deception. I felt that anyone subjected to the mind-control of this corporate monster could not be blamed for the things they did wrong. It wasn't their fault, they were not only being lied to but deceived in a dreadful way. They couldn't help being deceived, what was/is done to them is like a conjuring trick using words but it affects your mind and understanding. It fogs your brain.
Maybe some have knowingly prostituted their intellect or are cowards. Maybe some really should have known better. If so, I only hope they'll become ashamed of what they have done to their fellow Man.
-
39
Why Did You Stay In The JW Religion As Long As You Did?
by minimus inwere you so indoctrinated that you just couldn’t leave?
was it due to family pressure?
was it your friendships that you didn’t want to lose?
-
-
Anna Marina
I joined, not on the basis that it was the truth, but on the basis that as a group of Christian people, this was the best group going at the time.
In my study (1991-92) I noticed things which I felt were wrong and I spoke to elders and my study conductress. The things I noticed were not deal breakers, just grey areas. I was told that if the GB had got anything wrong they would correct it. They were not like the Pope who claimed infallibility. They were not like higher critics who attacked/changed the message in the Bible. So I was lied to. It took some time for me to realise that I was being lied to and that GB would not change their 1914 doctrine as it was the base of their power.
Even down to the very end, before I called them out as standing in opposition to Jehovah's Witnesses, such as Daniel, Ezekiel and Jeremiah, I gave them the chance to correct matters but both GB and local elders were unwilling.
-
5
JASON WYNNE PROJECT
by Eliseo inwe are cooperating with jason wynne’s project.
here you will find the details: https://testimonidigeovaconsapevoli.blogspot.com/2019/07/jason-wynne-collaborazione.html.
jason wynne was avoidjw founder.
-
-
Anna Marina
Oh I get it. Sorry Smiddy I misunderstood.
Maybe it's Jason's joke.
Sad fact is younger ones appointed as elders can get puffed up and WTBS knows that an uses it. Since they got elders who were getting elderly to step down, young elders have taken positions of power. So if older ones (who perhaps were starting to smell a rat) are not in-line according to the view of the CO, the CO will pull the strings of the younger ones to act against the older ones.
I expect you can picture other ways their power could be misused. Being horrid to others isn't age dependant.
-
5
JASON WYNNE PROJECT
by Eliseo inwe are cooperating with jason wynne’s project.
here you will find the details: https://testimonidigeovaconsapevoli.blogspot.com/2019/07/jason-wynne-collaborazione.html.
jason wynne was avoidjw founder.
-
-
Anna Marina
Smiddy they are not necessarily elderly. Or is that a just your way of ref to elders? Some years back they went to some lengths to get rid of older, and in some cases, more savvy elders. You get plenty of young elders.
-
144
If You Criticize A Person of Color Are You A Racist?
by minimus inseriously, it’s getting to a point that you can’t make a negative comment about someone without being charged as a racist, homophobe or sexist!
if you criticize a female, you are obviously sexist.
if you criticize someone who happens to be gay, you must hate homosexuals.
-
-
Anna Marina
Things have been ridiculous for years where I come from. At work we were being given training on not being prejudiced and not using discrimination.
So we shown a video on a rude, presumptious deaf person being misunderstood by a receptionist who was an older woman. When it was found out how the older receptionist had misunderstood the request of the deaf person, she was given hell by her boss.
At the end of this video the trainer asked us questions to ensure we had understood the message she wanted us to take away from this session. So I told her I had just seen an older receptionist experience age-ism and watched an intolerant deaf person act in a prejudiced manner.
My answer upset the trainer every bit as much as when I told the elders they were contradicting the prophet Daniel. Ok, I wasn't called an apostate or disfellowshipped but it was close.
-
21
“I got two ticket to paradise!”
by Dagney inand i don’t mean eddie money’s paradise.... you just can’t make this stuff up.
.
-
-
Anna Marina
Boarding Pass? Surely should read Boredom Pass.
Not sure I'd want to get on a plane that is departing this world. I know what they mean but you could easily misunderstand that phrase. Nice to see they would have everyone travel First Class though. Very considerate.
-
55
JW's Thoughts On Legal Marijuana
by Deltron3030 incan jehovahs witnesses ingest marijuana in states where it's legal?
can they use it medically and recreationally in legal states?
.
-
-
Anna Marina
On a related note...
...I can't help but notice that the new Kingdom Hall designs strongly resemble legalized cannabis dispensaries in my area, and IMO - should they ever need to be sold - could be easily repurposed as such with minimal refurbishing.
Coincidence, or irony? (the two are not necessarily mutually exclusive)
Hi Vidiot
I haven’t seen legalized cannabis dispensaries. But I am aware that since 1950s there has been a movement to legalise LSD on the basis of religious freedom.
The Ratafarians say that weed is grass and therefore the wheat from which bread is made. The bread of life is symbolised in the eucharist.
A one-time director of psychiatric research at the Kaiser Family Foundation , and lecturer in psychology at Harvard University (1959-1963), Timothy Leary set out to legalise LSD by framing it as the bread of life/eucharist. He gave LSD to the Theology Dept at Harvard and it received a positive response. He called his movement the League for Spiritual Discovery.
So, if you are able to take the name Jah and disconnect it from the Bible, connect it to Haile Selassie, say he was both God and Jesus and took weed. Maybe a time will come when a lot who have left the Watchtower will feel compelled to return to the head/the Ras… the GB? Is it possible that along with new light, the elders will be renamed counsellors or volunteer psychiatric helpers with rights to influence clinicians on who should or should not be allowed weed?
An imaginative idea I know. But the WBTS is shocking and unbelievable in so many ways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suFx6fNd9cg
Why not take a look at this video and see what Aldous Huxley felt was just around the corner, in 1958. A Brave New World and a dictatorship of the future. At 9:15 he talks of Soma (a made-up drug from his novel) and goes on to explain that to get the consent of the ruled you would use drugs (11:24) and propaganda so as to get people to actually love their slavery (11:53).